Friday Apr 25, 2025

EP4 - Journey from Control to Connection in Leadership

In this episode of the 'Un Muddying the Waters' podcast, host Joshua Okunlola discusses the pressure leaders often face to appear more confident and knowledgeable than they are.

He shares personal experiences from his early days as a facilitator and trainer, highlighting the costs of prioritising appearance and control over genuine connection and presence.

Joshua explains how he learned the importance of authenticity in leadership, trusting the process, and valuing the wisdom of the group. He urges listeners to reflect on areas where they may be seeking control, and to consider the benefits of leading with genuine presence and integrity.


00:00 Introduction and Episode Overview
00:36 The Pressure to Appear Confident
00:56 Early Experiences as a Facilitator
03:28 The Cost of Pretending
06:51 Realisations and Unlearning
07:39 Key Lessons in Leadership
09:22 Reflective Questions for Leaders
09:51 Closing Remarks and Invitation to Connect

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